Engine change/Discussion

SilentGamer64 wrote:- Movement seems very fast, are you guys still messing with the values?

deadofmind wrote:

SilentGamer64 wrote:- Movement seems very fast, are you guys still messing with the values?

I for one am all in favor of faster movement speed if there is no sprint, they may be tweaking it but to me, it looks good ^_^

SilentGamer64 wrote:Very impressive, especially considering you changed engines halfway through. Kudos.

- Were there some politics going on that put off the older members? Is that why you switched engines?
Although some team members disagreed with the switch, we all went for it in the end. And yes we lost some members afterward, but that was not due to the switch.

- So you have remakes of Guardian and Valhalla. Is Monolith a remake? Or is that an original map you guys designed?
Original map by Master Noob

- What is the Spike Rifle? Is it just the Spiker, or a new weapon? Can you explain how it works?
It's a custom weapon.

- Saw the "Bruteshot", but the projectiles looked really weird. Is it going to be more like Halo 2's, 3's, or will it be entirely different?
You saw the Spike Rifle. Back when I set up the HUD we didn't know what we'd have so we just set Brute Shot. Spike Rifle is a weapon under consideration. But that doesn't mean there'll be no Bruteshot

- I'm assuming the maps, weapons, and character models are all still WIP's? No offense, but it looks like the FRG was ripped straight out of Halo 4.
It will be redone.


- I noticed that no one scoped with the pistol. Will the pistol have a scope or no?
Pistol has a scope, I'm surprised nobody scoped with it.

- Does the ODST SMG mean no regular SMG/dual wielding in general?
The fact that it has a silence and red dot sight has nothing to do with dual wielding.

- Your map aesthetics look very clean and plain, kind of like Halo 4's. I'm sure the lighting will change some of that when you get it working, but is that the style you're going with? Or are you going to make some more weathered maps too?
The map and lighting set ups were done in a rush. Monolith is just a blockout, the remakes still need a second art pass.

- Movement seems very fast, are you guys still messing with the values?
Yes, although it's only slightly faster than Halo 3 atm.

- So no rechargeable health? Or is that a bug preventing the HUD from restoring the health bar? Wasn't sure since I didn't see any health packs lying around either.
We have not yet decided on how we will handle health, so there's neither health pack or recharging ingame atm.

R93_Sniper wrote:Currently no sprint or spartan abilities, but i wont say that we wont at the very least try some stuff out to expand the sandbox

HYPE INTENSIFIES

Not going to lie, I think that these gameplay videos are going to attract a lot more devs to join the project. Looking forward to more frequent updates, if that's still the case.
please don't make us wait 2 years again :(

Mootjuh wrote:
It's a custom weapon.
You saw the Spike Rifle. Back when I set up the HUD we didn't know what we'd have so we just set Brute Shot. Spike Rifle is a weapon under consideration. But that doesn't mean there'll be no Bruteshot

Mootjuh wrote:
It will be redone.

Spoiler:

Mootjuh wrote:
The fact that it has a silence and red dot sight has nothing to do with dual wielding.

JaggyNos wrote:Really loving the art style, and the map architecture. I would really like to see the game when visual feedback for receiving damage has been completed (seriously, there were points when I didn't even realize the player had taken damage). The shield pop when another player loses his shield worked well on Cardinal and Monolith, but it was a bit hard to notice on Asgard; however, people primarily used short-range weapons on a larger map, so that could have also affected it.

As we kinda said, VFX is in the works, and that's sort of the part that gives feedback. At some point we'll integrate a hit direction thing along with the sounds for taking damage.

I also really liked the kill notifications, such as "Mootjah Didn't Like P3." Will those stay in the game for the full release?
They're too cheesy for Contingency, but they were perf for Prototype. Funny shit right there.

Also, are you going a mixture of hitscan and projectile bullets? Weapons like the fuel rod cannon and the spike rifle look like projectile, while the rest seem like hitscan. Though some weapons, such as the BR, also kind of seemed like it was projectile-based, since I could see the bullets. Concerning the spike rifle, is there anything special about it? It sort of just seems like a projectile-based carbine to me.
As it stands, everything except FRG is Hitscan (by the traditional term, not the watered down layman term). While you can see the projectile, it's only a visual thing whereas the traces still continue regardless.
As for the spike rifle, many of the team members absolutely despise brutes and everything they stand for including their weaponry. However we decided to entertain the idea of turning the Spiker into a full rifle rather than a wimpy SMG that barely outclasses the human one but is easily surpassed by the needler of which fills the same niche. We want it to be a more anti-vehicle weapon by inflicting high damage with a relatively slow, but huge projectile. Would work as anti-infantry obviously but not really intended since the projectile can hit a large vehicle better than a relatively tiny Spartan.


Also, thank you so much for showing actual, unedited footage, unlike a certain other game that we saw recently.

SilentGamer64 wrote:

Mootjuh wrote:
It's a custom weapon.
You saw the Spike Rifle. Back when I set up the HUD we didn't know what we'd have so we just set Brute Shot. Spike Rifle is a weapon under consideration. But that doesn't mean there'll be no Bruteshot

- Are you allowed to shared how the Spike Rifle works/is planned to work? All I saw from the video was slow-moving balls of light being shot from it.
Explained above.

Mootjuh wrote:
It will be redone.

Spoiler:

- Ok, so it's like a redesign of the Halo 4 FRG. It just looked very similar in the gameplay video.
Doesn't look anything like the Halo 4 FRG really. If anything, it's closer to the halo 3 one (and holy shit was our FRG a lot of fun to animate [The cowling in the back retracts for the magazine, I just didn't get the chance to properly include the physical weapon animations for the update. Animations have also been updated]).

Mootjuh wrote:
The fact that it has a silence and red dot sight has nothing to do with dual wielding.

- Right, and I know H2A actually did both, but it kinda makes the idea of dual wielding less attractive if you have to sacrifice the existing scope. Same could be said of the pistol. And allowing people to scope in while dual wielding is probably not a good idea either.
Realistically, dual wielding scoped weapons has never really been allowed throughout the series. You would default go to binocular mode when you go into dual wielding even if both weapons could scope. Dual wielding is meant to double your firepower but also balance it out by forcing you to use a crutch so to speak. Either way, Scope and Dual Weilding have no real effect on one another.

Jenkins wrote:Wow, the evolution of this entire thing really made me realize just what exactly has been going on.

I was actually a regular user when BVG was working on their version of the game. Then was asked to migrate over to here because it was the game "essentially" (not essentially). It's just really interesting to see how things progressed and what became of the entire thing from then until now.

TL;DR: I've seen some stuff. (project-contingency.forumotion.com/u4 - User #4!) (http://bvgstudios.forumotion.com/u51 - Used to follow the OG project on BVG's old website)
Things changed, for the better I'm not sure but it's cool to watch from the sidelines.

Jaing wrote:Wait so let me get this straight did you have to start all over again or did you "integrate" your assets like you mentioned? I'm not sure what that means.

Mootjuh wrote:The Kill messages are from Master Noob's prototype. We kept them in for the lols for now but it will probably not be in the final game.

R93_Sniper wrote:He left.

R93_Sniper wrote:
Doesn't look anything like the Halo 4 FRG really. If anything, it's closer to the halo 3 one (and holy shit was our FRG a lot of fun to animate [The cowling in the back retracts for the magazine, I just didn't get the chance to properly include the physical weapon animations for the update. Animations have also been updated]).

P:

H4 FRG:

H3 FRG:

Mootjuh wrote:More on par with the reach one I guess

And it was MAster Noob who made it.

SilentGamer64 wrote:Oh, wow. Totally didn't think to ask this until now.

Elites?