Re: Dedicated Halo 5 Thread

[Heatguts]

I didn't realize H5 has temporary unlockable attachments. That really isn't cool. It's like what they did with sprint, "oh, yeah, we didn't quite take it out but we changed it a whole bunch so it's basically completely different" except this time with loadouts.

I also didn't realize H5 had a windows 10 edition. Is deadofmind just kidding or is he being serious?

[deadofmind]

Why must you ruin my dreams of playing Halo 5 on PC so I don't need an Xbox One? D:

Y u do dis RM&T

It's absolute sarcasm Heatguts, I wish lol

[Stevedoggen]

Kidding man, kidding. This is Microsoft and 343 we are talking about.

[Heatguts]

Yeah, I guess I should have figured.

Although that would be an interesting question. If halo 5 was released on pc for $60 with no xblive gold requirement, who would buy it?

[Mootjuh]

But you can play it on PC..

..With W10 streaming.

[General_101]

But you can play it on PC..

..With W10 streaming.

I seriously want to see some moron actually recommend someone Xbox streaming to play Halo on your PC. For starters it's
1. A glorified octopus cable\wireless TV of sorts.
2. You are just wasting power by turning on both your PC and Xbox when your PC will give you no advantage. Say hello to that electric bill!
3. Speaking of wasting power why would you play it on PC. It is Xbox quality no matter what you do because it is the Xbox doing the work.
4. You are going to be forced to use a controller so if you wanted to use keyboard and mouse **** you love Microsoft.
5. It takes like a minute and about ten dollars to buy two HDMI cables and hook them up to your devices to switch inputs with a remote.
6. Even if your Xbox is in a totally different room and you can't use it because they are using the TV so what? You think they want to hear your console turn on and doing random shit before they turn it off. Just move it to your room because god knows you need the exercise.
7. Why the **** do you own an Xbox?
8. Why the **** are you playing on your Surface.It's a fucking console game! Do you not own a TV?
Anyone even remotely thinking this feature is helpful to some degree is a fucking moron. Make no mistake this isn't for your benefit but for Microsoft. They want to try to get more money out of people and that is it.

[RockMetal&Time]

But you can play it on PC..

..With W10 streaming.

I seriously want to see some moron actually recommend someone Xbox streaming to play Halo on your PC. For starters it's
1. A glorified octopus cable\wireless TV of sorts.
2. You are just wasting power by turning on both your PC and Xbox when your PC will give you no advantage. Say hello to that electric bill!
3. Speaking of wasting power why would you play it on PC. It is Xbox quality no matter what you do because it is the Xbox doing the work.
4. You are going to be forced to use a controller so if you wanted to use keyboard and mouse **** you love Microsoft.
5. It takes like a minute and about ten dollars to buy two HDMI cables and hook them up to your devices to switch inputs with a remote.
6. Even if your Xbox is in a totally different room and you can't use it because they are using the TV so what? You think they want to hear your console turn on and doing random shit before they turn it off. Just move it to your room because god knows you need the exercise.
7. Why the **** do you own an Xbox?
8. Why the **** are you playing on your Surface.It's a fucking console game! Do you not own a TV?
Anyone even remotely thinking this feature is helpful to some degree is a fucking moron. Make no mistake this isn't for your benefit but for Microsoft. They want to try to get more money out of people and that is it.

^ Fucking exactly! its true Windows 10 streaming is absurd and completely unnecessary there's no point you lose quality, responsiveness and its damn stupid!

[Heatguts]

I still want to know microsoft's reasoning for why they insist they care about pc gaming. We've got countless evidence against it.

[General_101]

I still want to know microsoft's reasoning for why they insist they care about pc gaming. We've got countless evidence against it.

I am assuming because of the small problem Steam could become. Imagine a scenario where you could get a free OS and play the majority of games on steam. Not good for Microsoft's end. Other than market problems probably to try to build some brand loyalty and bring them closer to the Xbox to try to sell them shit.

[Heatguts]

I don't think any PC fan is looking favorably in microsoft's way. They really have 0 reason to. Microsoft hasn't done anything for PC since windows live, and lots of people hated that. I'd say they have a pretty bad rep, so no loyalty there and claiming to support PC doesn't stop steam at all. At this point MS has no chance at bringing them down.

[Mootjuh]

Only upside of strraming so far is having the ability to use a 360 controller on an Xbone. Which they should have really made working on the Xbone in the first place nd for H5 it doesn't matter because no splitscreen.

[RockMetal&Time]

Only upside of strraming so far is having the ability to use a 360 controller on an Xbone. Which they should have really made working on the Xbone in the first place nd for H5 it doesn't matter because no splitscreen.

Splitscren in Halo 5 is a Lose-Lose situation if 343 where to implement it that would mean delaying the game and getting rid of the consistent 60fps or worse having 30fps that would make the console war much much worse since right now if you go to digital foundrys Halo 5 video the game never Dropped a single frame

But the comments are filled with PC and Playstation maniacs calling the game shit because it drops to 30 during a cutscene DURING a fricking cutscene!
now if splitscreen was a thing the game would have frame drops everywhere a.k.a more damn harrasment and a bad image to Halo 5

BUT without splitscreen fucking everybodys harrasing the game saying its shit.etc even though 90% of modern shooters dont have splitscreen anymore and they act like its some Holy grail of FPS Worst of all it was hilarious how EVERY SINGLE Gamespot article that talked about Halo 5 in the end had a Small little message saying "Halo 5 guardians has no Splitscreen and still doesn't have it even after thousands of petitions" Like on every single article of theirs they always put that in the end as if saying "hey consumers stay away from this game it doesn't have splitscreen"

I'm not surprised by all this 2015 is the age of complaining and bitching...

[Stevedoggen]

I'll take a 720p30 great experience over a 1080p60 average game anytime.

There, I said it.

[General_101]

Here is the problem RMT. Halo isn't just another modern shooter and has always had splitscreen. Saying people are whiny bitches for complaining about a feature being removed that was a feature of the Halo series is fucking retarded. This is what I mean when I talked to you before that 343 cares more about their narrative and presentation before the fucking game!

But the comments are filled with PC and Playstation maniacs calling the game shit because it drops to 30 during a cutscene DURING a fricking cutscene!

This is another thing that doesn't inspire me with confidence that anyone at 343 wants to actually make a game along with all of their talk about cinematic experience. (Hey! A word that makes me worry about Doom 4.) They need to go back to being that annoying kid behind the counter at the popcorn stand if they want 30 FPS during the cutscene of a fucking video game.

[deadofmind]

Hey guys let's not turn this into an FPS war. While it's commendable that the game doesn't drop below 60 FPS , keep in mind this is not the full game and that is subject to change when the full game with all assets comes out ^_^

I'm with Stevedoggen on this one, I would gladly sacrifice 1080p60fps for splitscreen.

I think the reason everyone is mad about no splitscreen is because, IMHO, Halo has been synonymous with splitscreen multiplayer since it's initial debut. It is literally designed for inviting friends and having an epic thumb war :D

I personally bought so many of the Halo games because it was FUN testing skills between friends and family (360 swagscope crossmap with a pistol my younger bro all DAY wut is he casul? yes xD) And now they tell me I would have to buy FOUR Xbox Ones, FOUR TVs, FOUR games and FOUR XBL subs?

FU­CK that.



This is why I was wondering, what is the viability of either multi instance, or splitscreen being able to be implemented into P:C?

[RockMetal&Time]

Well after playing Splitscreen on the MCC with my friends all summer long we got fucking jaded so we got like 3 TV's and 3 Xbones in the same room and just played like that now what I'm trying to say is Splitscreen can go away and it wont affect ME BUT it sure as hell will affect everybody else but hey i'm a selfish bastard and I admit that so I dont care and yes Id rather have 1080p 60fps over 720p 30fps / splitscreen :P

I mean the only reason why the Halo 5 beta felt so good IMO was because of the framerate and the visuals it really felt like Next gen Halo It was the same feeling I got when I first played Halo 3 on my brand new 360 and was jaw dropping at every scene!

Also just a little clarification the cutscenes are 30FPS because Bokeh DOF and tons of other Post processing effects are turned on when you're in a cutscene

[Heatguts]

If 343 implemented splitscreen in Halo 5 PC and Sony fans would have additional flak to throw at Halo 5 in its overall form. But no, the game itself wouldn't suffer any framerate reduction, the only portion of the game where frames would drop or that would run at 30fps would be splitscreen multiplayer. And if you don't want to play it, you don't have to. The fact is, it should be an option.

If you want to buy 4 xbones, tvs, xblives, and games then including splitscreen doesn't impact that experience in any way. However, not including splitscreen does impact the players who would prefer splitscreen because the mode isn't even there and you are required to spend at least a thousand extra dollars on.

90% of modern shooters don't have splitscreen and 90% of modern shooters are also cod clones. Nobody ever played splitscreen cod over console-to-console cod because that's not what cod mp was built as. It's built as a skill-based experience with tons of weapons and as a military simulator. It turns out as a shallow skill based experience with the illusion of tons of weapons where the mechanic of aim-down-sights actually lowers the skill gap by slowing down the players and making it easier to both aim and be aimed at where the best players get tons of overpowered equipment to further trounce the worse players. Halo was built as a tacked-on mode to a singleplayer game where people could just shoot at each other for a while and it evolved into an intense arena shooter with a high skill curve where map knowledge is crucial and aim has much higher requirements when you can jump and strafe quickly with no aim penalty making you much, much harder to hit. Now 343 is appealing to the cod audience and the lowest common denominator and also trying to kickstart a competitive movement for it by hosting tournaments and adding weapon timers and all that other crap. 343's multiplayer isn't Halo multiplayer, it's something else, something ugly and nasty that may or may not be a great game but will turn out as not Halo in the end.

And if you get tired and annoyed by splitscreen then buy all the extra stuff you want but consoles are for the casual gamer (which is another rant) and as the casual gamer I want the casual ability to casually play a casual match of halo whenever we can all get together in one casual place but the cod audience whose parents buy them so much crap doesn't really do that, they just go home and up to their room and play cod until 12 am and go to sleep and complain that they're tired in the morning has the equipment and convenient location to just not do that and instead when they get together with their friends they play football or some crap. (nothing against football specifically there) The splitscreen mantle for AAA games is coming off and with it I think we will either turn to indie shooters for it or even PC if necessary. Since PCs are so hardcore I never really would have thought they'd end up with such a casual feature but I wouldn't really be surprised if someone came out with some multi-instance runner of some game that could select all the windows at once and sort different controller inputs to each one.

It would be like adding ironsights to doom or quake or slowing down the player speed in those games. They'd become so different and their core fanbase would largely pass it up.

[General_101]

What you said about splitscreen on PC, that can already be done. Games like Left 4 Dead 2 and Halo can be played splitscreen with controllers and it works fine provided you have the hardware. Hell, other than plugs for monitors I don't think there is a real limit on how many you can have on in Halo to begin with.

[Heatguts]

Lol

That means I can host a Project Contingency LAN Tourney with 64 players and play it SPLITSCREEN.

Everyone will hate me.

[Stevedoggen]

The future is now.

[RockMetal&Time]

HOLY SHIT GOD ALL MIGHTY WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST WATCH?!?!
THE AVENGERS?


(edit Confirmed: Buck is buying the drinks.
My body is ready.)

[SilentGamer64]

Extremely over the top action?

Chief did it first:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-mR79GErU

And that was back before Spartan Abilities were even a thing lol.

[Jaing]

Can't wait till they try to take down Chief.

Is it just me or does Tanaka look like Samus?

[R93_Sniper]

Admittedly that was pretty damn cool, and the Spartans felt more like the Spartans in the books rather than the game Spartans, which in a way is a good thing too.

[Heatguts]

I wondered why chief's animations in that second video looked so familiar, then I realized most of the hand to hand combat in rvb was pretty much the same thing.

As far as the cutscene goes, it was pretty neat, although I preferred the spartans when they were more mysterious and less jump-around-and-act-like-the-avengers-as-nicely-put-by-rmt. Back when they were just really good soldiers who paid the price to finish their mission and not superheroes who may pay the price ultimately so that the story can have "substance" or "character" or some other literary thing you need someone to die for.

And as far as I'm concerned they can do all they want with the spartans as long as they aren't halo 4's stupid marines-with-shields. I want to see them run, jump, melee, pick up weapons, generally be aggressive like in the trailer and people who play on easy.

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