Re: Dedicated Halo 5 Thread

[RockMetal&Time]

Hmm since people don't care about spoilers then **** it you've been warned {RMTS CRAZY TIN FOIL CORNER DISCUSSION TIME}

I've come up with some crazy Tin Foil hat shit theories after finishing Halo 5
First The Hunt Begins trailer probably has a hidden message I know i'ts like grasping straws but hear me out!

Here's the Trailer for Reference

Now we know that Cortana is the one behind "Setting these things loose" (The Guardians)
We also know that Cortana recruited others to join her cause (Other A.I's)
There's also other statements like We Created him [her] and in Halo 5 Cortana and the AI's are referred as the "Created"
The biggest statement is "Killing Civilians" and boi did Chief and the others just nag to Cortana about her actions and "Civilian deaths"

So while the trailer is clearly referring to the Chief you can by a long shot twist it and replace Chief with Cortana and boom it makes perfect sense!
Still The HTT Advertisements where clearly not aligned with the Story but then again So are almost all Halo advertisements et. Halo 2 Chief only ads with "Save Earth" no mention of Arbiter
Halo 3 with the Believe campaign and the Death of Master chief in battle.etc

Before I go into my other statement let me just say... the ending of HTT S2 fits well with the theme of the Post Halo 5 universe Maya was made into an A.I from her Brain JUST LIKE CORTANA! maybe In order to study her nature? now why would they do this? probably because they want to understand the psychology behind Cortana? remember there are still some Loyal A.Is like Roland and Black Box I don't what other A.Is would stay Loyal to humanity other than those two  but you get the point some of the A.I's are still helping humanity

Which brings me to the Assembly... now to regular plebs you might have no idea who the Assembly I don't blame you since the only information we have on them are from the Reach Data Intel thingies, and some mentions by Catalog http://www.halopedia.org/assembly
Can you imagine what the hell must had occured with those guys? maybe half Defected and the other stayed loyal maybe all of them defected or all of them stayed loyal who knows I'm still trying to understand how they would affect the story later on :P

Anyways those where junk theories Now comes my Main mega theory and that is the fact that History is repeating itself... Cortana = Mendicant Bias
I'ts simpler really Cortana is the only A.I who chilled with the Gravemind and gained massive amounts of Knowledge from conversing with the Flood
oh and a peek to the Domain, all of this is written in Halo Evolutions: Human Weakness if you haven't checked that out, anyways Like I said Mendicant Bias/Cortana
where Created and then defected for Logical reasons and knowledge, both had contact with Gravemind both accessed the Domain, Both Recruited the other A.I's/Ancillas to their cause and Both wanted to Bring peace to the universe in a weird twisted fucked up way AND BOTH where at their times* The Greatest single A.I in the Galaxy...

**** this is Halo 2 all over again what with the INSANE cliffhanger setting up a new Massive conflict of mixed allies and enemies :P

SUPER EDIT: alright final statement Like I've stated Halo 5 is Just Halo 2 all over again AND THAT means the goddamn story was shrunk the **** down Just in case you didn't know Halo 2 was supposed to end when the Portal to the Ark opened and Truth's fleet entered so The fight in Voi and all that was going to be in Halo 2 but due to microsoft and time constraints it was cut

On the other hand we got Halo 5 and the Cut content IS MASSIVE from what I have pieced I mean goddamn Look at the Halo 5 achievement art and tell me that IS Obviously POST halo 5 when humanity has been turned into freaking Mice hiding in the shadows it makes perfect sense look at this weird shit





Not to mention Halo 5 was supposed to be super ambitious and was going to have Open World Ship travelling and other crazy ambitious ideas that where cut into
shitty RPG talk to people And explore a shit *** area with crap collectibles Halo 5 had 3 of those shitty missions



Well those where my Halo 5 Campaign thoughts On the next post I will go over my complaints for the game MOSTLY CAMPAIGN! since I haven't played MP and FROM what I have played so far i'ts been great the multiplayer is just really really good but it feels like it's missing a lot *witch it is* but like I said I'll go over that later

And yes I'm still cleaning all the jizz from my Xbox thank you for reminding me Neesy I hadn't noticed it was beginning to smell :/

[Mootjuh]

Use spoiler tags.

And campaign was meh. I could almost smell what's going to happen 10 miles beforehand. Plus so many ripoffs.

[Neesy]

Comparing the false advertising in H5 to prior Halos' is pulling at straws tbh.

[Heatguts]

Your review was not here. You have failed me.

Also personally if I bought the game and the campaign was hinted at beforehand to be crap I'd play some multiplayer first (probably splitscreen even if I had gold but in lieu of that matchmaking works too) especially since there's no other modes in the game.

[Neesy]

60fps doesn't support splitscreen didn't you know?

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[Mootjuh]

I'd play 480p splitscreen for all I care.

[Stevedoggen]

I played a bit of multiplayer and campaign. The campaign isn't as bad as some are making it. It wasn't amazing either though. The boss repeats and occasional glitches are real though.

The multiplayer is way better than 4's. It's interesting in it's own way, not bad.

And to loop this back to the colourblind assist conversation a while back, H5 needs it, or the names to appear above the heads 3x quicker than they lazily do currently. I'm shooting teammates a lot.

[Mootjuh]

It's a bit too saturated too.

[TheAandZ]

**** this is Halo 2 all over again what with the INSANE cliffhanger setting up a new Massive conflict of mixed allies and enemies :P

Halo 2 was 100x more conclusive than Halo 5

[Neesy]

**** this is Halo 2 all over again what with the INSANE cliffhanger setting up a new Massive conflict of mixed allies and enemies :P

Halo 2 was 100x more conclusive than Halo 5

[Stevedoggen]

**** this is Halo 2 all over again what with the INSANE cliffhanger setting up a new Massive conflict of mixed allies and enemies :P

Halo 2 was 100x more conclusive than Halo 5

Also I'd like to draw to attention the comically hard Legendary difficulty. Seriously, wtf. 3 shots from any gun will down you, so get used to staring at the 50 second counter before you respawn. It's beyond a challenge, it's a grind of the worst variety -_-
I don't think any sane person would do the 3 warden fight, so glad you can skip it with parkour.

[SirMarty]

I'm looking at Waypoint and it seems that Halo 5 is already getting lots of backlash. Even many classic Halo fans still post criticizing 343's alternative approaches. I wonder how bad the forums will get once Blops 3 and Fallout 4 come out.

[TheAandZ]

Also I'd like to draw to attention the comically hard Legendary difficulty. Seriously, wtf. 3 shots from any gun will down you, so get used to staring at the 50 second counter before you respawn. It's beyond a challenge, it's a grind of the worst variety -_-
I don't think any sane person would do the 3 warden fight, so glad you can skip it with parkour.

I welcome any challenge in Halo campaigns (Halo 2), but the bullet sponge enemies really kill any and all fun in Halo 5

[R93_Sniper]

Just Thought I'd Leave This Here

[TheAandZ]

areyouseriousthatisawesome

[Stevedoggen]

I barely even notice Haloween fly by. Hardly anyone does it down here, beyond the decorating. I haven't had a single trick or treater in like 10 years maybe.

[Neesy]

Halloween here is just an excuse for slutty parties and getting shitfaced. Can't complain.

[RockMetal&Time]

I'm looking at Waypoint and it seems that Halo 5 is already getting lots of backlash. Even many classic Halo fans still post criticizing 343's alternative approaches. I wonder how bad the forums will get once Blops 3 and Fallout 4 come out.

Well the fans who are enjoying the game don't have time to make a forum post about how much fun they're having BUT the people who aren't having fun like to make those types of /rant posts Tell me what do you see on the news? "The Hundreds of planes that finished their succesful flights or the one single case of a plane who failed and crashed?"

Anyways I just barely turned on my PC today just for School reasons I've been having a blast with Halo 5 so my PC started gathering dust, Now the campaign story might had been disappointing in terms of Story which is indeed true and I agree wholeheartedly but the gameplay, gunplay is the funnest I've ever had in a halo game since 3 and 2. Warzone is a blast And I have already scored some insane 50+ kill matches I'm still trying to orchestrate a 12-man world dominating Xbox live party but that's gonna have to wait lol

Arena is really fun but it makes me sweaty due to there not being any unranked playlists as of now, but Either way I'm loving the Team Arena playlist and CTF is really good I freaking love the flag juggling and the maps it's on

Now even though the game has little Arena content as of now Atleast we're getting BTB this month with 8 maps which I think are all remakes from the old games if I recall correctly
and it seems most of the classic modes won't be coming until later this month or In December when forge comes around not to mention I can't wait for Griffball and Infection which comes around in the same time frame :P

My only complaint with the game is that the Launch content is turning away to many uninformed gamers especially reviewers who are praising Warzone like it's the second coming while totally ignoring Arena, and all the FREE DLC coming later I wish they would had delayed the game...


(To those who don't have Halo 5 yet Just hold out and don't pick it up until forge releases *(Christmas) by then you'll have all the classic modes and infinite maps + file share :P
If I were to give Halo 5 a rating from the tons of hours I've played it would be an 8 or 8.5  :P

[TheAandZ]

Basically if you like Halo for it's story, H5 sucks donkey nuts, but if you like Halo for online multiplayer (not co-op obviously), it's ok (although that bullet magnetism is still freaking awful).

[Neesy]

I've ever had in a halo game since 3 and 2

not a hard feat to pull of tbh

[Heatguts]

Oddball is one of those classic modes right? There's no way I'd buy a halo game, even used, if it doesn't have oddball. It's fun in H3 but in H2, H1 and Reach you can pull mad teleporter stunts and it's great

And as far as the reviewers go they aren't addressing forge or the dlc because neither are in the game, and right now the game is rather limited in its content. Reviews can mention it but factoring missing content into a final score or even the review itself isn't fair to the people who opted to leave it out of the game or the people who read the review and thought they were already in the game. I'm sure you've heard about the massive backlash about splitscreen from the largely uninformed casual xbox fans that happened to be living under a rock for the past two months.

[RockMetal&Time]

Oddball is one of those classic modes right? There's no way I'd buy a halo game, even used, if it doesn't have oddball. It's fun in H3 but in H2, H1 and Reach you can pull mad teleporter stunts and it's great

And as far as the reviewers go they aren't addressing forge or the dlc because neither are in the game, and right now the game is rather limited in its content. Reviews can mention it but factoring missing content into a final score or even the review itself isn't fair to the people who opted to leave it out of the game or the people who read the review and thought they were already in the game. I'm sure you've heard about the massive backlash about splitscreen from the largely uninformed casual xbox fans that happened to be living under a rock for the past two months.

Yeah exactly it was a really shitty move in 343s part I mean they can add BTB with 10 maps in less than a month but they can't add the old classic modes during the Development cycle?
Way to turn off Newcomers to the series :'(

[SilentGamer64]

Hey guys, Angry Joe just reviewed Halo 5 guardians and basically covered my exact thoughts on how the game would turn out:



This part was especially accurate IMO. It's sad how supposed Halo fans are defending this lack of content, poor gameplay, and bullshit microtransactions that pretty much puts Halo's first foot through the door of a shitty Pay2Win future. Makes you wonder if they were seriously considering releasing Halo Online as a legit game worldwide before it became a Russian exclusive...

[Heatguts]

At this point I don't think there will be too many newcomers to the series. When I introduce people to Halo I use reach because of the beaver creek remake, as it's pretty easy to learn but doesn't gravitate towards only using the magnum. Halo 3 has too many similiar weapons and maybe its just me but the aim assist is more in reach (and as strafing while bunny-hopping are ingrained reflexes now they need it). Even if I take them to H3 later once their aim gets better and they get used to the controls and physics and mechanics, playing against them with 10 inverted sensitivity using a plasma pistol is the way to go for a good while. Halo 5 has all Halo 3 does more or less except it also has the spartan charge and groundpound and thruster pack and clamber and really that'd just complicate things.

I heard that the story is too deep in the lore for newer players to get anyways, and as far as MP goes they'd play the game, think what they will, then when they inevitably compare it to their other favorite shooters they leave because it has a higher ttk - meaning more aim required and less free kills - and when they ads for some wierd reason people just shoot at them and kill them before they can get off more than a few shots its so wierd its like they don't ads at all.

EDIT: Also

Excuse me but Angry Joe

That cover has an M rating on it

[RockMetal&Time]

Hey guys, Angry Joe just reviewed Halo 5 guardians and basically covered my exact thoughts on how the game would turn out:



This part was especially accurate IMO. It's sad how supposed Halo fans are defending this lack of content, poor gameplay, and bullshit microtransactions that pretty much puts Halo's first foot through the door of a shitty Pay2Win future. Makes you wonder if they were seriously considering releasing Halo Online as a legit game worldwide before it became a Russian exclusive...

Yeah I already saw it heres a summary from a Reddit user credit to /PounderMcNasty

Summary : 6/10. BUT when the new maps come out it COULD be a 7/10 or a 8/10.
+Free DLC map packs instead of paid.
+Beautiful Graphics
+Multiplayer is great and fun.
+Awesome detail/wild life
-Microtransactions
-Short campaign
-Not that much content at launch.
-Maps repeat too often in multiplayer.
-He dislikes the REQ system.
He's saying that matches only give you 900 points per match. My last warzone match disagrees with your point joe. I understand that he doesn't like microtransactions and I agree with him. But the thing is he calculates how long it would take you to unlock everything which is approx. 1100$ if you decide to spend money. What he didn't look at was he could unlock the SAME amount of cosmetics from silver REQ packs (Armor sets and Helmets).

As for story/campaign I disagree what Angry joe had to say but heres a better video that Agrees with my narrative


Bottom line is,they don't let anyone breathe. Halo 4 had moments where Cortana and Lasky breathe and tell their story, they let out Human moments that draw you into the world and lets you imagine that its a real one. The game is missing breathing room. The plot rapidly goes from one exposition to another. The characters don't have character moments, they have game moments.
Halo 4 was beautiful when Lasky and Chief are talking about being a machine. In my eyes, that's when I realized that 343 was going to make the franchise great, to show that Halo 4 is more than just a gun and a giant Halo installation. Its the moments that decide when we are human, what we are, and the challenges in life that makes us. When is loss too much, and so much more.
And it just seems like they dropped it. I don't know if Brian Reed is the problem, but I just don't think he's great as Chris. Chris wrote Cortana like he saw his mother die from Alzhimers. That's beautiful. Reed comes from a comic book background and it shows. Its exposition to exposition with no room for character growth or scenes were Cortana is looking at the sun or Chief and Lasky have a talk. Brian needs to let go of the Comic Book style. It hurt this game

I'm just fucking glad Brian Reed lead writer of halo 5 responded to it and tons of 343i emplooyes have already seen it
I have no idea how the **** they let this happen when Halo 4s story was leagues ahead they just fucking downgraded back to Original trilogy basic plot moving crap no fucking human drama
which is what I was thirsting for in Halo 5 and what I fucking loved about HuntTheTruth...

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